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For millions across India, a rigid caste system thousands of years old still dictates much of daily life – from social circles to dating pools to job opportunities and schooling.

The Indian government has long insisted that the social hierarchy has no place in the world’s most populous nation, which banned caste discrimination in 1950.

So, it came as a surprise when Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s administration announced that caste would be counted in the upcoming national census for the first time since 1931 – when India was still a British colony.

Counting caste will “ensure that our social fabric does not come under political pressure,” the government said in its April press release. “This will ensure that society becomes stronger economically and socially, and the country’s progress continues without hindrance.”

The release didn’t include any detail on how the caste data would be collected, or even when the census will take place (it has been repeatedly delayed from its original 2021 date). But the announcement has revived a longstanding debate about whether counting caste will uplift disadvantaged groups – or further entrench divisions.

The proposal is so controversial because a caste census “forces the state to confront structural inequalities that are often politically and socially inconvenient,” said Poonam Muttreja, Executive Director of the Population Foundation of India.

The lack of caste data over the past century means “we are effectively flying blind, designing policies in the dark while claiming to pursue social justice,” she added. “So, the next census is going to be a historical census.”

What is caste?

India’s caste system has roots in Hindu scriptures, and historically sorted the population into a hierarchy that defined people’s occupations, where they can live and who they can marry based on the family they’re born into. Today, many non-Hindus in India, including Muslims, Christians, Jains and Buddhists, also identify with certain castes.

There are several main castes, and thousands of sub-castes – from the Brahmins at the top, who were traditionally priests or scholars, to the Dalits, formerly known as the “untouchables,” who were made to work as cleaners and waste pickers.

For centuries, castes on the bottom rung – Dalits and marginalized indigenous Indians – were considered “impure.” In some cases they were even barred from entering the homes or temples of the upper castes, and forced to eat and drink from separate utensils in shared spaces.

India tried to wipe the slate clean after it won independence from Britain in 1947, introducing a flurry of changes in its new constitution. It set up specific categories of castes, used to establish affirmative action quotas and other benefits – eventually setting aside 50% of jobs in government and places at educational institutions for marginalized castes. It also abolished the concept of “untouchability” and banned caste discrimination.

The decision to stop counting caste in the census was another part of this mission.

“After independence, the Indian state consciously moved away from enumerating caste … in the census,” said Muttreja. “They thought they should not highlight caste, and that in a democracy, it will automatically even out.”

But that hasn’t happened. Although the hard lines of caste division have softened over time, especially in urban areas, there are still major gaps in wealth, health and educational attainment between different castes, according to various studies. The most disadvantaged castes today have higher rates of illiteracy and malnutrition, and receive fewer social services such as maternal care and reproductive health, Muttreja added.

Social segregation is also widespread; only 5% of marriages in India are inter-caste, according to the India Human Development Survey. Similar divides linger in friend groups, workplaces, and other social spaces.

These persistent gaps have fueled rising demand for a caste census, with many arguing that data could be used to secure greater federal government aid and reallocate resources to the needy.

In some states – such as Bihar, one of India’s poorest states – local authorities have conducted their own surveys, prompting calls for Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government to follow suit.

Now, it appears, they will.

Why now?

Modi has long pushed back on attempts to define the population along traditional caste lines, previously declaring that the four “biggest castes” were the poor, youth, women and farmers – and that uplifting them would aid the entire country’s development.

But rising discontent among underprivileged castes boosted opposition parties during the 2024 national election, which delivered a shock result: although Modi won a third term, the BJP failed to win a majority in parliament, diminishing their power.

Modi’s U-turn on the caste census, his rivals claim, is a political maneuver to shore up support in upcoming state elections, particularly in Bihar – a battleground state where the issue has been particularly sensitive.

“The timing is no coincidence,” wrote M. K. Stalin, the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu state and a longtime Modi critic, in a post on X. “This sudden move reeks of political expediency.”

Bihar’s own caste survey in 2023 found there were far more people in marginalized castes than previously thought, sparking an ongoing legal battle to raise the affirmative action quotas.

Several other states took their own surveys, which the federal government said in its statement were “varied in transparency and intent, with some conducted purely from a political angle, creating doubts in society.”

The main opposition Congress party celebrated the government’s announcement, claiming Modi had bowed to their pressure. BJP leaders, meanwhile, say the opposition neglected to conduct any caste census during their years in power, and had now politicized the issue for their own gain.

The previous Congress-led government did conduct a national caste survey in 2011, but the full results were never made public, and critics alleged the partial findings showed data anomalies and methodology issues. It was also separate from the national census conducted that same year, meaning the two sets of data can’t be analyzed against each other.

Though authorities haven’t said when the new census will take place, they have enough time to refine the methodology and make sure key information is collected, said Sonalde Desai, demographer and Professor Emerita of Sociology at the University of Maryland College Park.

After the census is complete, the next battle will begin: how to use that data to shape policy.

A controversial proposal

Not all are in favor of the caste census.

Opponents argue that the nation should be trying to move away from these labels instead of formalizing them. Some believe that instead of focusing on caste, government policies like affirmative action should be based on other criteria like socioeconomic class, said Desai, also a professor of applied economic research at the National Council of Applied Economic Research in New Delhi.

She supports the caste census, but said opponents might view such a survey as regressive, instead of helping to create “a society in which (Indians) transcend that destiny” defined by caste.

There’s another factor, too: if the census reveals that marginalized castes are bigger than previously thought, as was the case in Bihar, the government could increase how much affirmative action they receive, angering some traditionally privileged castes who already dislike the quota system.

Over the years, anti-affirmative action protests have broken out, some turning deadly – with these groups accusing the government of reverse discrimination, echoing similar controversies in the United States about race-conscious college admissions and job hiring. These same groups are likely to decry the caste census, Muttreja said.

Already, some opposition leaders are calling to remove the 50% cap on affirmative action quotas, and to implement affirmative action in other institutions like private companies and the judiciary – controversial proposals that have prompted online firestorms.

It might also show how the balance of power and privilege has shifted over the past century, said Desai. Since the 1931 census, some previously disadvantaged castes may have been buoyed by affirmative action and other measures – while other castes that once sat higher on the ladder may no longer be considered as privileged.

This is why, she argues, India’s government should use the data to perform a “re-ranking” – reorganizing which castes belong in which of the specific categories used to allocate resources and benefits.

The census could clearly illustrate who needs what kind of help and how to best deliver it, instead of relying on outdated data, said Muttreja. It can reveal intersectional gaps; for instance, a woman in rural India may struggle far more than a man of the same caste, or a peer in an urban area. And it could show whether any castes have ballooned in size, demanding more funding than currently allocated.

“It can shape school funding, for instance, health outreach, employment schemes and more,” she said. It “helps ensure that quotas reflect real disadvantage, not just historical precedent.”

Once that data is out there, Muttreja believes, the government will be forced to act – it can’t afford not to. And for those who still deny that caste discrimination remains rampant, or who argue that affirmative action is no longer necessary: “This data will stare at people’s faces.”

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Hundreds of supporters of ex-President Evo Morales marched toward Bolivia’s top electoral court on Friday to push for their leftist leader’s candidacy in presidential elections later this year, a rally that descended into street clashes as police tried to clear out a group of demonstrators.

The confrontations come in response to a ruling by Bolivia’s Constitutional Court that blocks Morales, the nation’s first Indigenous president who governed from 2006 until his ouster in 2019, from running again in Aug. 17 elections.

The turmoil escalates political tensions as Bolivia undergoes its worst economic crisis in four decades.

As the march arrived in Bolivia’s capital of La Paz, protesters seeking to register Morales’ candidacy surged toward the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, chanting, “Comrades, what do we want? For Evo to come back!”

Security forces barricading a road to the court held them back. Police reported that the clashes between rock-throwing protesters and tear gas-lobbing police forces injured two officers, a journalist and a local merchant.

“They’re using firecrackers and rocks that are hurting our forces,” said police Commander Juan Russo. “This is not a peaceful march.”

The authorities did not report on any injuries among the protesters, who were seen being pushed onto the ground, shoved into police cars and blasted with tear gas. Morales had promised to attend the march Friday but did not show up.

The court’s unanimous decision Wednesday upheld an earlier ruling that bans presidents from serving more than two terms. Morales has already served three, and, in 2019, resigned under pressure from the military and went into exile as protests erupted over his bid for an unprecedented fourth term.

Morales returned to Bolivia a year later as the 2020 elections vaulted to power his preferred candidate, President Luis Arce, from his long-dominant Movement Toward Socialism, or MAS, party.

Arce, who announced earlier this week that he would not seek re-election, insisted that the Constitutional Court had disqualified Morales, his mentor-turned-rival, from running in 2025.

But many experts doubt the legitimacy of that decision in a country where political conflicts undermine the courts and presidents have maneuvered to get their allies on the bench.

“The Constitutional Court issues unconstitutional arbitrary rulings at the whim of those in power,” said Morales, who himself reaped the benefits of favorable judges while seeking to run for a fourth consecutive term in 2017.

After Morales lost a referendum seeking to do away with term limits while still in power, the Constitutional Court ruled it would be against Morales’ human rights to stop him from running for another term.

That 2017 ruling allows Morales to register his candidacy, said Oscar Hassentoufel, the president of the Supreme Electoral Tribunal. “Then the tribunal will decide whether he’s eligible or not.”

In defiance of the latest court ruling, Morales called a mass march that marshaled his loyal supporters in the rural tropics. They long have championed the Indigenous coca-grower for transforming the country during his tenure — redistributing Bolivia’s natural gas wealth and seeking greater inclusion for its Indigenous majority.

Although he had earlier promised to participate, it appeared that Morales remained holed up in his stronghold for fear of arrest on human trafficking charges that he claims are politically motivated.

The government confirmed that fear Friday. “We ask Mr. Morales to surrender voluntarily,” said Eduardo del Castillo, a key minister in Arce’s government whom the MAS party endorsed for president later Friday in place of Arce. “If we find him walking the streets, we will arrest him.”

Instead, scores of his supporters walked the capital’s streets on Friday wearing masks of Morales’ face.

“Evo Morales is each and every one of us. If they want to detain Evo Morales they would need to take every one of us, too,” said David Ochoa, a representative of the marchers.

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Russia has sentenced an Australian man to 13 years in a maximum-security prison for fighting alongside Ukrainian forces, state prosecutors in the Russian-controlled parts of eastern Ukraine said Friday.

Oscar Jenkins, 33, was found guilty by a court in Luhansk of participating in an armed conflict as a mercenary, prosecutors said in a statement, after it ruled he had fought for Ukraine against Russia between March and December last year.

Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong said on Saturday that her government was “appalled” by the sentencing, calling it a “sham trial” and urged Russia to treat Jenkins in accordance with international humanitarian law.

Australia has repeatedly called for the release of Jenkins, who is originally from Melbourne, since he was captured by Russian forces in December.

“We continue to hold serious concerns for Mr Jenkins. We are working with Ukraine and other partners, including the International Committee of the Red Cross, to advocate for his welfare and release,” Wong said in a statement.

Russian prosecutors accused Jenkins of being paid between $7,400 and $10,000 a month to fight in Ukraine as a mercenary. The Kremlin maintains that mercenaries are subject to criminal prosecution and not entitled to prisoner-of-war protections under international law.

In a photo shared by the Russian-controlled court in Luhansk, Jenkins was seen standing in a glass cage with his hands behind his back.

The court ordered Jenkins to serve his sentence in a maximum-security penal colony, the prosecutor’s office said.

Jenkins is thought to have joined an international brigade among the Ukrainian ranks, according to Reuters. His arrest came to light late last year when a video surfaced on Russian Telegram accounts purportedly showing Jenkins being taken as a prisoner of war.

Speaking in a mix of English, Ukrainian and Russian, he identifies himself as “a soldier” and says he is a teacher in China and a student in Australia.

Earlier this year, media reports suggesting he might have been killed prompted Canberra to summon the Russian ambassador, with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese vowing the “strongest action” over any harm caused to the man.

Albanese said last month his government would continue to make representations to the “reprehensible regime” of Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Jenkins.

Australia has repeatedly condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and has given Kyiv close to $1 billion in assistance since 2022, while its military has provided training for Ukraine’s armed forces.

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Police in the UK have charged three Iranian nationals with national security offenses following a counter-terror investigation.

The three men, arrested on Saturday, 3 May, have been charged with “engaging in conduct likely to assist a foreign intelligence service,” namely Iran, between 14 August 2024 and 16 February 2025, London’s Metropolitan Police said in a statement Saturday.

The men, aged between 39 and 55, have been named by police as Mostafa Sepahvand, Farhad Javadi Manesh, and Shapoor Qalehali Khani Noori.

They have been charged with engaging in surveillance and reconnaissance, with one man charged with the intention of committing “serious violence against a person in the United Kingdom,” the statement outlined.

The UK’s Crown Prosecution Service charged the men on Friday, and they are due to appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Saturday. The investigation is being led by the British counter terrorism police.

Commander Dominic Murphy, from the Met’s Counter Terrorism Command, said: “These are extremely serious charges under the National Security Act, which have come about following what has been a very complex and fast-moving investigation.”

A fourth man, aged 31, who was arrested on Friday, May 9, has been released without charge.

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While the United Nations, through its UN80 Task Force, continues a public-facing attempt to slash its budget to manage a decline in external contributions and in recognition of overlapping mandates and duplicated efforts, a U.N. diplomatic source tells Fox News Digital that the effort is an attempt ‘to keep a mammoth organization untouched’ until 2026 midterm elections.

The source explained that the ‘zero-growth budget’ proposed for 2026 has already been prepared, and that ‘talk about how we’re going to get it leaner’ is only intended to ‘take [President] Trump for a sucker.’ The source said that the U.N. believes that the budget will tide the U.N. over until the House flips to Democratic control and Trump will no longer be able to ‘inflict damages to the U.N.’

The source claimed the effort is the ‘brain child’ of the U.N. Foundation, something the group refuted.

‘We have never proposed linking U.N. budgetary deliberations to the U.S. mid-term elections,’ a spokesperson from the U.N. Foundation told Fox News Digital.

‘The U.N. Foundation is an independent organization, separate from the U.N. itself. We are not involved in the U.N.’s budget process, which is decided by the U.N. General Assembly. We also share a widely held view that there is scope for efficiencies and innovations to strengthen delivery of the U.N.’s lifesaving work,’ the spokesperson added.

Fox News Digital viewed internal documents which show efforts by various U.N. entities to direct cost-cutting measures. The source says some show the disingenuous nature of the effort. 

A UN80 memo from the U.N. Resident Coordinators in Africa from April 2025 discusses how previous reforms have failed. It explains that they ‘did not fully address incentives for collaboration,’ which left U.N. entities to ‘too often prioritize their corporate obligations over system-wide coherence.’ Coordination, the memo reads, ‘is too easily viewed as additional work rather than a core responsibility,’ and ‘funding competition further compounds these issues.’

While the memo identifies two options for reorganization, it notes that ‘implementing such ambitious structural reforms, especially Option 1, will require a medium-term phased approach over a 5-10 year horizon,’ and notes that Option 2 ‘is not likely to be viable if no structural changes are made to [headquarters] level entities.’ 

The U.N. source says the memo ‘shows…the inability of the U.N. to reform itself.’ 

Another memo from the office of the Secretary-General sent on April 25 directs Secretariat entities to perform a ‘functional review for cost reductions and efficiencies.’ Among the directions provided is that personnel ‘identify which functions could be relocated,’ including ‘at a minimum the functions, organizational units, post numbers, and grade levels proposed for relocation.’ 

Numbers were to be sent to the Office of the Controller by May 16, noting that the ‘tight deadline’ is in line with the ‘very limited timeframe’ the U.N. has ‘to prepare and submit the revised estimates through [the Advisory Committee on Administrative and Budgetary Questions (ACABQ)]’ so they might be considered ‘within the overall context of the proposed programme budget for 2026.’

Fox News Digital’s source called foul on the earnestness of the endeavor. ‘This Secretary-General has to deal with bodies that, even though they are called the United Nations, they do not depend on him,’ they explained. ‘The document does not represent any value legally, because none of their boards have committed nor listened or reviewed’ the order. 

Fox News Digital asked Secretary-General Antonio Guterres’ spokesperson Stephane Dujarric whether Guterres could expect organizations with independent boards to enforce changes like those addressed in his memo. ‘We do not take such a pessimistic view. The Secretary-General and the heads of the U.N. Funds and Programmes will act in areas under their authority while, of course, keeping the governing bodies informed,’ Dujarric said.

Before the deadline for responses came due, Guterres delivered a May 12 briefing admitting that the proposal for the 2026 budget ‘was already given to ACABQ some time ago and it will be impossible to change it at the present moment.’ While Guterres said he would present revised proposals in September in time for budget approvals, he explained that ‘changes that require more detailed analysis will be presented in the proposal’ for the 2027 budget.

Fox News Digital’s source says the admission is proof that ‘this whole attempt is a lie to appease the Americans so they don’t go harsh enough and cut anything right now.’ 

On May 13, Guterres addressed a letter to all U.N. staff about the need for ‘bold, transformative thinking’ and extensive reforms to bring the U.N. out of its liquidity crisis. While expressing gratitude for employees’ ‘extraordinary dedication, expertise and creativity’ he warned ‘that ‘leaks’ and rumours may create unnecessary anxiety,’ Guterres said that ‘it will be inevitable that we cannot leave all posts untouched.’

After over three decades of working for the U.N., the source says they have ‘seen the U.N. attempt to change itself at least five times.’ Instead, they said that the U.N. only got ‘a larger footprint.’ They explained that other insiders ‘are fed up that the organization is not changing.’

‘You have…a super state that basically controls itself,’ the source explained. ‘And you should also trust them to reorganize themselves?’ they asked.

Whether the U.N. could hold out for promised change is unknown. The Economist reported in May that due to nonpayment of fees, the U.N. may run out of funds to pay its suppliers and employees by the General Assembly in September.

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Former FBI Director James Comey is expected to meet face to face with U.S. Secret Service officials in Washington, D.C. for an interview about his ’86 47′ post, two sources briefed on the meeting told Fox News.

Comey is under investigation for an Instagram post showing seashells arranged on a beach to read ’86 47.’

‘Cool shell formation on my beach walk,’ he wrote in the since-deleted post. Some have interpreted the post to mean ’86’ – get rid of –  ’47’ – Donald Trump, the 47th president.  

The U.S. Secret Service is leading the investigation at this point, but the FBI and Department of Justice could take a larger role if necessary, Fox News is told.

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GOP House Oversight Committee Chairman and other Republicans are raising concerns about former President Joe Biden’s cognitive functions were well enough to authorize aides to use an autopen tool to sign important documents on his behalf.

On Friday evening, Axios released exclusive audio footage of Biden’s interview with Special Counsel Robert Hur, which reveals clues about Biden’s cognitive functioning while president that the interview’s transcript did not elucidate. Biden can be heard slurring his words, muttering and taking long pauses. Meanwhile, Biden also failed to recall the date of his son Beau’s death or the year Trump was first elected.  

‘It questions who was actually making the decisions,’ Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., said Friday night on Fox News Channel’s ‘Hannity.’

 ‘Clearly, from that interview, which was many, many months prior to the heavy use of the autopen, Joe Biden wasn’t capable of making decisions. He wasn’t coherent.’

Earlier Friday, Comer announced a new investigation trying to uncover who gave the orders to use the autopen. According to Comer, among other important things, the autopen tool was used to grant presidential pardons to Biden’s family members.  

‘It does call into question these pardons – the use of autopen, and I think it may actually open the door – I’m not a lawyer – but I’d imagine Trump or his administration may try to make some arguments to federal courts about actions Joe Biden took because now we’ve got more information coming out, and they’re reasonably going to determine, ‘Yeah Joe Biden couldn’t remember anything. He didn’t even know when his son died, or when Trump got elected or when he left office,’ political commentator Tim Pool added.

‘Who was controlling the autopen? Who was pulling the strings? Who were the unelected bureaucrats making decisions that negatively impacted our country?’ asked former Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advisor Link Lauren. ‘I want names.’

Donald Trump has said he does not use autopen to sign legally binding documents like pardons. In March, a White House official confirmed it was the administration’s policy to use Trump’s hand signature on any legally binding documents.

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Leaked audio from former President Joe Biden’s interview with Special Counsel Robert Hur showed the president struggling with key memories, including when his son Beau died and when he left the vice presidency. 

The audio, obtained by Axios, was a clip from several interviews between the former president and Hur related to an investigation into his handling of classified documents. 

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Former President Joe Biden, in newly leaked audio of his interview with special counsel Robert Hur, admitted he likely kept a classified document related to Afghanistan after he left the vice presidency for ‘posterity’s sake.’ 

Biden first said he didn’t recall why he had the document when asked about it by Hur, who told him it was found in the library of his lake house. 

‘I don’t know that I knew,’ that he had the document, Biden answered, ‘but it wasn’t something I would have stopped to think about.’ 

Hur noted that Bob Woodward and Jules Witcover both wrote about the document in their books about him, asking if he wanted to hang onto it because it might be the subject of reporting or ‘history.’

‘I guess I wanted to hang on to it for posterity’s sake. I mean, this was my position on Afghanistan. I’ve been of the view from a historical standpoint that there are certain points in history, world history, where fundamental things change using technology,’ he said. 

‘So, there are a lot of things that I think are fundamentally changing how international societies function, and they relate a lot to technology.’ 

After the 80-year-old continued on that subject for a while, Hur interrupted him to get back to the topic of the document. 

‘No, I’m sorry, that’s why I wanted it,’ Biden answered. ‘It had nothing to with Afghanistan.’ 

One of the former president’s lawyers then interrupted Hur to say, ‘For the purposes of a clean record,’ he wanted to avoid ‘getting into speculative areas,’ mentioning that Biden at first answered the question about the document by saying he didn’t recall why he had it. 

At that point, Hur answered, ‘I think we should take a break.’ 

In other sections of the audio, Biden seems confused, asking what year his son, Beau Biden, died, and what year he left the vice presidency.

The audio, related to an investigation into Biden’s handling of classified documents while vice president, came out after more than a year of congressional lawmakers demanding its release amid questions about the former president’s memory lapses and mental acuity. 

The House Judiciary Committee sued Attorney General Merrick Garland in July for the audio recordings, stressing the importance of the ‘verbal and nonverbal context’ of Biden’s answers that could be provided by the audio recordings, especially considering Hur opted against charging Biden after the interview, partly because Biden was viewed as ‘a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.’

The committee argued at the time that the audio recordings, not merely the transcripts of them, are ‘the best available evidence of how President Biden presented himself during the interview.’ 

That lawsuit was filed before Biden dropped out of the 2024 presidential race in July after he struggled in a June debate with Trump. 

Biden had exerted executive privilege over the audio recordings while president. 

Hur, who released his report to the public in February 2024 after months of investigation, did not recommend criminal charges against Biden for mishandling and retaining classified documents, and he said he would not bring charges against Biden even if he were not in the Oval Office. 

Those records included classified documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other countries, among other records related to national security and foreign policy that Hur said implicated ‘sensitive intelligence sources and methods.’

Fox News Digital has reached out to Biden for comment. 

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When asked by special counsel Robert Hur’s co-counsel, Marc Krickbaum, in 2023 about a handwritten memo on Afghanistan during the Obama administration, President Joe Biden said he didn’t ‘remember’ telling Mark Zwonitzer, the ghostwriter of his book, ‘Promise Me, Dad,’ he ‘just found all the classified stuff downstairs.’

In a new audio file released by Axios Friday, Biden said ‘I don’t remember’ numerous times as Krickbaum questioned him on the second day of interviews in October 2023 about having classified documents he should not have had after leaving office.

‘You said to Mark, ‘I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,’ and, so, you can imagine we are curious what you meant when you said, ‘I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,’’ Krickbaum said.

‘I don’t remember,’ Biden replied. ‘And I’m not supposed to speculate, right?’

‘Correct,’ Biden’s attorney, Bob Bauer, chimed in.

‘So, OK, well, I don’t remember, and it may have been — I just don’t remember,’ the former president mumbled.

After explaining that he was referring to a conversation with Zwonitzer about a handwritten memo he wrote for former President Barack Obama, Biden replied, ‘I probably did. I don’t remember specifically, but my guess is I may have done that.’

Then, leading to the ‘classified stuff downstairs’ comment, Zwonitzer asked Biden if he had found any documents in his home or if he told Zwonitzer about finding any while they worked together on the book in 2017.

Stumbling over his words, Biden replied, ‘No, the only thing I can remember is I wanted to be clear to him that I didn’t want what he just heard me say about the memo to Barack, even though it wasn’t a top secret thing (indiscernible), I didn’t, I didn’t want any of that mentioned. It was confidential.’

He clarified he didn’t mean confidential in the classification sense, but that he did not want it included in the book about his son, Beau.

They discussed boxes in the library, hallway and the ‘back of the garage,’ with Biden noting he did not know ‘where in the hell’ all of it was going, but that was the extent of his knowledge of what they contained.

‘Not like I’m looking for something, like I’m trying to compile things. But just what’d they pack up, what’s here,’ Biden said.

While the White House released the transcripts during his presidency, the audio of the interviews remained under wraps, with some speculating about his mental state as the reason.

Hur’s investigation, which concluded in 2024, found Biden should not be criminally charged for mishandling and retaining classified documents that detailed military and foreign policy in Afghanistan and other countries, among other national security topics.

After Hur described the former president as ‘a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,’ Biden fired back, saying, ‘I’m well-meaning, and I’m an elderly man, and I know what the hell I’m doing. I’ve been president. I put this country back on its feet. I don’t need his recommendation.’

Fox News Digital’s Brie Stimson contributed to this report.

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